Dr. Atul Gawande has spent his life at the intersection of healing and human limitation. In this conversation—recorded live at the Aspen Ideas Festival—Kate and Atul wrestle with some beautifully uncomfortable questions: What do we do when there’s no fix? What makes a life still feel like yours? From terminal diagnoses to parakeets in nursing homes to the quiet revolutions of primary care, this episode is a deeply human exploration of what it means to be cared for.