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Duke Professor Kate Bowler is an expert in the stories we tell about success and failure, suffering and happiness. She had Stage IV cancer. Then she didn’t. And since then, all she wants to do is talk to funny and wise people about how to live with the knowledge that, well, everything happens.
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When Caregiving Becomes Codependency
When someone you love is in pain—whether they’re sick, addicted, or falling apart—you show up. Again and again and again. You make the calls. You hold the line. You carry what you can. But what happens when love, loyalty, and devotion blur into something harder to name? When care turns into codependency, and compassion starts to erase your sense of self? Kate sits down with best-selling author Elizabeth Gilbert (Eat, Pray, Love, Big Magic) to talk about the toll and the tenderness of caregiving. Liz’s new memoir, All the Way to the River, chronicles her years caring for someone she…

What Makes Life Worth Living?
Dr. Atul Gawande has spent his life at the intersection of healing and human limitation. In this conversation—recorded live at the Aspen Ideas Festival—Kate and Atul wrestle with some beautifully uncomfortable questions: What do we do when there’s no fix? What makes a life still feel like yours? From terminal diagnoses to parakeets in nursing homes to the quiet revolutions of primary care, this episode is a deeply human exploration of what it means to be cared for.

When Fixing Isn’t Loving
Some people become the ones others depend on. They organize the plans, remember the details, carry the weight. They know how to fix things—quietly, efficiently, lovingly. That kind of strength can shape a whole life. Until it begins to hollow something out. Amanda Doyle has spent much of her life being that person. In this conversation, she joins Kate to talk about what happens when helping becomes a way to stay in control, when strength hides tenderness, and when receiving love might be the bravest thing we do. She shares her experience of parenting a neurodivergent child, walking through a…

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