What happens when the life you were supposed to have… disappears?

Jen Hatmaker joins Kate Bowler for a conversation about faith, divorce, patriarchy, and the slow art of healing. After the collapse of her marriage and being pushed out of the evangelical world, Jen had to figure out how to live again—how to co-parent, pay bills, go to therapy, and mother herself after decades of being the “pastor’s wife.

This is for the people who are learning how to live when the story changes. A conversation about grief, grace, and not doing it alone.